Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

04/25/2023 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:04:12 PM Start
03:06:04 PM Confirmation Hearings Board of Dental Examiners
03:15:05 PM SJR10
03:22:23 PM HB127
03:59:10 PM HB89
04:38:16 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Board of Dental Examiners - Jonathan Woller
+= SJR 10 MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 10 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 127 HOME AND COMMUNITY-BASED WAIVER SERVICES TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 127 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 89 DAY CARE ASSIST./CHILD CARE GRANT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 89(HSS) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
        HB 127-HOME AND COMMUNITY-BASED WAIVER SERVICES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  127, "An  Act relating  to home-  and community-                                                               
based  services   under  the  medical  assistance   program;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:22:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MINA, as  prime  sponsor, explained  that HB  127                                                               
would  allow  Medicaid  reimbursements  for  legally  responsible                                                               
individuals who  provide care  services to  family members.   She                                                               
stated that  to qualify  the individuals would  need to  become a                                                               
personal care  assistant and be hired  by an agency.   She stated                                                               
that currently this  is prohibited by state law, but  it has been                                                               
a  pandemic-related  flexibility  allowed   by  the  Centers  for                                                               
Medicaid and Medicare Services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:23:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX opened public testimony on HB 127.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REINA YOUNG, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 127.                                                               
She stated that she has six  children, four of which have special                                                               
needs.   She stated that there  are not enough care  providers in                                                               
the state,  so she provides  care services to her  children while                                                               
also working a  job outside of the home.   The other option would                                                               
be placing  her children outside  of the  home.  She  shared that                                                               
she  provides her  children with  social and  emotional learning,                                                               
life skills  learning, education, and  personal care, all  on one                                                               
parent's income.   She argued that  HB 127 would help  her family                                                               
and many  others to be  more financially independent,  as parents                                                               
would not  have to rely  on welfare programs, and  families could                                                               
stay together.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:26:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE CRONLUND,  representing self,  testified in  support of                                                               
HB 127.   She shared that she  works at a local company  and is a                                                               
direct service provider for her  two children with special needs.                                                               
She  stated that  one in  five  Americans has  a disability,  but                                                               
every scenario is  different.  She stated that  her children have                                                               
qualified for  the support  waiver for the  last five  years, and                                                               
within  this  time  they  have  had  seven  different  providers;                                                               
however, the  providers were unable  to accommodate  the family's                                                               
schedule with speech  and occupational therapy.   She stated that                                                               
her  family had  gone months  without providers.   She  explained                                                               
that during the COVID-19 pandemic  her work hours were shortened,                                                               
which was financially  hard, but this ensured she was  able to be                                                               
there for her  children.  She explained that  many children learn                                                               
with  simple   instruction,  but   her  children   need  constant                                                               
repetition of  tasks and  reminders.   She added  that this  is a                                                               
full-time  job, and  she has  developed coping  mechanisms.   She                                                               
stated  that  under  her  care  the  children  have  made  "great                                                               
improvements."  Working at home  has given her the flexibility to                                                               
work around their  schedules and needs.  She  stated that in-home                                                               
care  for  children  with  special needs  helps  them  to  become                                                               
independent and functioning members  of society.  Allowing family                                                               
members to  receive pay  as care  givers relieves  constant worry                                                               
and stress.   She argued that the program would  not only benefit                                                               
children with  special needs, but  it would benefit the  state in                                                               
the long  term.   She asked  for the  committee's support  for HB
127.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:31:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  commented on the  testifier's dedication.                                                               
He  questioned  whether  she  has had  any  training  in  applied                                                               
behavioral analysis (ABA).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CRONLUND responded that she  has not had any formal training,                                                               
but  she  has   researched  and  joined  support   groups.    She                                                               
referenced her background and real-life  experience and said that                                                               
if  something  does  not  work,  she  reaches  out  to  different                                                               
resources and uses the ABA approach.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER encouraged  Ms. Cronlund  to contact  the                                                               
Governor's  Council on  Disabilities and  Special Education.   He                                                               
said this is  a clearinghouse of information  about ABA therapies                                                               
and treatments.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:34:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WENDY MENZE, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 127.                                                               
She shared  that she has lived  in Juneau for 20  years and takes                                                               
care of her adult daughter,  who suffered cardiac arrest in 2020.                                                               
She stated  that her daughter had  spent two months in  a medical                                                               
center  in  Seattle, and  now  she  is completely  immobile,  has                                                               
limited  verbal communication,  and spends  most of  her time  in                                                               
bed.   She  explained her  daughter's  husband was  unable to  be                                                               
there as  support; therefore, her daughter's  young children also                                                               
live with  her and her husband.   Because there are  no available                                                               
caregivers  in  Juneau,  for  the past  2-plus  years  they  have                                                               
provided  care.    She  had  inquired  about  receiving  pay  for                                                               
providing in-home care  but was told that the state  could not do                                                               
this;  however, as  of January  2022 she  has been  getting paid.                                                               
She stated that financially she and  her husband are able to take                                                               
care of themselves, but the extra  money helps pay for things she                                                               
cannot afford and things for  the grandchildren.  She stated that                                                               
it would be a burden if the  current pay were revoked.  She urged                                                               
support for HB 127.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:39:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET  JOHNSON, representing  self,  testified in  support of  HB
127.   She  shared  that her  23-year-old  daughter has  multiple                                                               
disabilities  and  now  lives  in  Anchorage.    She  stated  her                                                               
daughter does  not seem  severely affected  because she  has been                                                               
given "incredible care"  during her life; however,  she does need                                                               
a great deal  of assistance.  She stated that  while her daughter                                                               
lived  at home  in Cordova,  the family  went almost  two decades                                                               
without any care  givers.  Because they live remote,  her son was                                                               
allowed to  provide care and be  paid.  She stated  that this had                                                               
"saved them,"  and now  her daughter is  thriving because  of the                                                               
family care.   She stated that she is "self-trained"  to care for                                                               
her  daughter   and  considers  herself  a   professional.    She                                                               
reiterated  that because  families can  give extra  complex care,                                                               
they can  be "great" caregivers.   She urged support for  HB 127,                                                               
as  it would  strengthen a  family's ability  to provide  care to                                                               
their loved ones.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:45:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON,  in response to Chair  Prax, stated that all  of her                                                               
training had been "on the job."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON,  in response  to Chair  Saddler, stated  that before                                                               
the COVID-19 pandemic  the agency had separated  care into levels                                                               
with different  pay rates; however,  because of the  pandemic her                                                               
son was  paid $14  per hour  for a 40-hour  workweek.   She added                                                               
that this "helped immensely."  She  stated that it takes work and                                                               
actual  physical  activity,  because   it  is  not  always  about                                                               
learning and speaking.  In  response to a follow-up question, she                                                               
stated that care  hours had been authorized;  however, her family                                                               
went for  20 years without  finding staff.   She stated  that her                                                               
daughter is "complicated," and staff did not last long.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER remarked that caring  for a loved one with                                                               
disabilities is  "a 24/7 job,"  and this provision  would provide                                                               
pay for  only 40 hours per  week.  He expressed  the opinion that                                                               
it will  not fully compensate  individuals for all the  hours put                                                               
in, but at least it is something.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON responded in agreement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIE GOMEZ, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 127.                                                               
She shared that  she has lived in Anchorage since  2015 and is an                                                               
unpaid caregiver.   She stated that she began taking  care of her                                                               
mother  in 2018,  and it  is  challenging because  she gets  very                                                               
little sleep.   She explained that the only help  she receives is                                                               
a nurse who comes  two days a week.  She  relies on the community                                                               
and church for  basic needs; however, receiving pay  for the care                                                               
would  change their  lives, as  now they  live in  poverty.   She                                                               
stated that  she is  "happy with  what we  have," but  prices are                                                               
going  up,  and  they  are  living off  of  her  mother's  social                                                               
security income.   She stated that with more money  they could be                                                               
eating healthier  foods.  She  concluded that  families receiving                                                               
pay for providing care would help elders live their best lives.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:55:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PRAX,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 127.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:56:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SUMNER thanked  the bill sponsor, as  HB 127 would                                                               
have a substantial, positive impact on many people in the state.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:56:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to report  HB 127 out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection,  HB 127 was reported out of the                                                               
Health and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 89 Amendment 3 A.4.pdf HHSS 4/25/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Amendment 4 A.5.pdf HHSS 4/25/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Amendment 5 A.6.pdf HHSS 4/25/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Amendment 1 A.2.pdf HHSS 4/25/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Amendment 2 A.3.pdf HHSS 4/25/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 89
3.13.23 Jonathon Woller Dental Examiners Application_Redacted.pdf HHSS 4/25/2023 3:00:00 PM
Governer's Appointee